Giles Gray

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  Can a full healing from cult ever be accomplished

  by Chook in

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  2. experiences

  can all indoctrination leave a person , or does it linger in background till death..

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  Giles Gray

  Healing from a cult and ridding yourself from its indoctrination are two very different things. The latter is a lot easier to do.

  Healing is relative. Some pre-damaged people are drawn to cults, so when they leave they still have their original issues to deal with. It would be easy for these individuals to project their original issues and claim they have problems as a result of being in a cult.

  If your circumstances are right, with effort and a bit of luck, you can pretty much move on successfully and have a full and normal life, if that is the definition of being 'healed'.

  Some 'hang-ups' from being in a cult can be very useful. Ex JWs tend to be very sharp when it comes to critical thinking. They also tend to have a very good ability to debate logically and rationally.

  So I would say yes, it is possible to completely move on from being a JW.
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  Are Gods true worshippers on Earth today? If they are not JWs then who are they?

  by Formerbrother in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  is there gods true worshipers on earth today as jesus said there would be?

  if they are not jws then who are they?.

  who else comes close to being gods true followers today?.

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  Giles Gray

  If the bible is untrue then the god of the bible doesn't exist.

  The simple answer is there are no true followers of a non-existent god.
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  What is the purpose of life?

  by slimboyfat in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  while reading the magazines the other day it occurred to me that jws never really had a very good answer to that question.

  because it was aimed at young people and it said something along the lines, "if you believe in god you have a purpose, but if you don't believe in god your life has no purpose or meaning".

  i think that is a faulty analysis of the situation.

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  Giles Gray

  Here it is, on good authority...the meaning of life.

  https://youtu.be/qBArMmngVH4
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  Origin of Life

  by cofty in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  in recent years significant progress has been made in solving the question of how life originated on our planet.. how do you think theists will respond when it finally happens?

  as a former christian i know my reaction would have been something like "well that just goes to show that it takes intelligent life to make life", but for two reasons that defense doesn't work.. firstly it would prove that life is not an ethereal force that originates with god.

  there is no 'ghost in the machine', no elan vital.

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  Giles Gray

  John Mann-" Cofty you still are using science methods to things that don't belongs to science."
  

  What else can he use to discuss a topic related to abiogenesis?
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  Stuck

  by Cindy in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i feel so stuck.

  i am married to a wonderful man.

  i have been married for almost a decade and adore my husband.

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  Giles Gray

  If you are feeling depressed then you have to do something about the situation you are in.

  No easy answers. Expressing your doubts would be a good start, especially if he's noticed something is wrong and would be inclined to be understanding. Gently and slowly, one point at a time.

  The alternative is to stay in and act out the rest of your life. Only you will know if this is the best option or not but it doesn't sound like it.
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  Pioneer afraid to meet with elders commits suicide

  by poopie in

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  2. friends

  they were afraid he would be df for something they did do instead of faceing possibility of being shunned commited suicide.

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  Giles Gray

  Nevuela

  If you look in the Urban Dictionary you will find the term 'topping yourself' means suicide.
  
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  We all "shun."

  by stillin in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  an old friend of mine committed suicide this week.

  he was a great guy; pleasant to be around, a hard worker, kind.

  everybody at work liked him.. then something changed.

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  Giles Gray

  The society uses shunning to control the people who know the one to be shunned. It is done as a 'self-serving' strategy for their own gain.

  That is nothing near the reason for how you dealt with your friend. It's a totally different motive and perspective, even though it may look similar.
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  meeting with elders about WT involvement in UN

  by LevelThePlayingField in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i still go to the meetings because of my in wife and it came about that the elders knew of my pissed off attitude about the society getting involved in the un.

  so the elders said they could help me get over that and wanted to meet with me.

  now just to let you know, i have only told my wife and her mom so far about it, that's it.

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  Giles Gray

  If you are worried about being labelled an apostate then just talking about the UN will be a huge mistake.

  If the elders coming to see you do any kind of research on line, they will see that the UN issue is a favourite among apostates. You are therefore already at great risk of being accused of being one.

  If you flash a UN letter under their noses, you will be hauled before a judicial committee quicker than you can say 'repentance'.

  The fact they know you have been talking to either your wife or her mother has probably already put you in the position of actually being an apostate.

  If you don't want to get booted out, it would be advisable for you to downplay what you know and keep all the information about the UN to yourself.

  Best of luck on that one...
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  Can’t cope with being disfellowshipped…..Need some advice

  by xxBettyBoopxx in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  this site is great, i have been lurking for a while now.

  but i can’t get reinstated and have used some of the advice already given.. i was df’d many months ago and go to all the meetings and do all the preparation for the meetings, but the jc committee keep refusing me.

  tomorrow at the clam meeting i am puting yet another letter in and will be called for another dreadful jc meeting.. 1. what can i say to the elders to show that i am truly repentant?.

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  Giles Gray

  If you need that much attention you really are a sad case indeed.
  Get ready for the tears and phony apologies.
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  [Generic evolution vs. creation thread]

  by sir82 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  to save us all a lot of time and effort..... [some complex structure in living organisms described].

  [i can't imagine how this could be the product of evolution].

  [therefore god created it].

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  Giles Gray

  [You just don't want to believe in god because you are selfish. You know he exists really]